My towel :(

My towel :(2014-02-04T13:21:10+00:00
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  • nos20b2002
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    Hi

    I’m a newbie to Bikram, or any other Yoga for that matter 🙂

    I have been only to two classes last week and I found the second easier than the first ‘torture’ class.

    However, I am already quite flexible in my quads and hamstrings, so a couple of the positions were fairly easy for me, so I wanted to try stretch further but found it almost impossible to hold my leg tight enough to allow me to pull into a good stretch, due to the sweat 🙁

    During the position where you lie on your back and pull your knee up towards your chest and hold onto your shin area I couldn’t do it because my hands kept sliding back up my leg and off my knee, thus letting my leg spring back out reducing the stretch benefit to me.

    So I grabbed my tiny hand towel and used it to help grab my shin, which worked really good 🙂 BUT I heard the teacher say in front of everyone from the platform “Please do not use your towel”. At first it didn’t click that the teacher was talking to me, I was busy drowning in sweat and trying to get the best stretch I could.

    So the teacher shouted across the room to me “I said, please do not use your towel to hold your leg”…. I then knew it was directed at me. So I put it down.

    So, my question is to you all, is there an etiquette or some rule that I had broken by trying to maintain my grip on my slippery leg?

    I have read many forums comments about how Bikram Yoga can be quite strict and often abrupt. I don’t go there to be yelled at for using my common sense 🙁

    Thanks everyone 🙂

    Pookie

    kfi2000
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    Hey…sorry you felt yelled at. At least your name wasn’t shouted out! This class can indeed be strict. It is a beginner’s class and there is little tolerance for using props or changing the postures, unless instructed to do so. Hopefully your instructor is also caring and helpful.

    It sounds like you are bringing an extra towel into class with you. Is that to use as you described or for wiping sweat? I used to bring a hand towel in with me also at the beginning of my practice. Over time, I learned not to use it and then stopped bringing it in at all. The only posture where a prop is used in that class is in Rabbit, because in that posture losing your grip on your heels can cause injury. But you don’t need it for other postures. It might seem like you do, and I understand your frustration in being corrected for something that made sense for you to do. But you don’t actually need the towel. Over time, you will learn to do the posture without the towel, and without the slipping. I admit that I sometimes wipe my hands on my towel just before I grab my knee, but otherwise work on the grip and you will be fine. If the grip slips, just redo it.

    The other posture where people tend to “cheat” in my class is Triangle….they position themselves so one foot is on their towel/mat, to keep from slipping. But here too you can learn to do the posture without slipping, as your muscles improve and you figure out how to engage the thigh muscles to keep your position without sliding. It seems nearly impossible in the beginning!

    Hang in there. I encourage you to talk with your instructor about any instruction or correction you don’t understand.

    Namaste!

    -Kristin

    bunni
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    The same thing happened to me when I first started practicing…I thought the instructor was being a total jerk. But the goal is to do the yoga without props and fidgeting, and like the other person who posted said, I ultimately stopped even bringing an extra towel after a few months of practice.

    I later became good friends with the instructor who had called me out about the towel. He pointed out that all parts of the posture should progress together–your hands /grip gets stronger as other parts of the posture also improve. With the exception of rabbit (where the safety of your neck is at stake if you slip), using a towel to increase your grip could allow you to progress too far into a pose and cause injury.

    This happened to me in standing bow–I used to use a hand towel at my ankle so I could go further without slipping, but I ended up injuring my hamstring on the standing leg. I wasn’t ready to go that far, and the towel gave me a false sense of strength/security. Sometimes it is hard in the hot room to know when to stop pushing because you are much more flexible than at cooler temperatures–so I try to think of the slippery grip as a built in safety mechanism to keep me from going too far. Maybe that’s weird, but it works for me! I hope it helps you as well.

    Good luck!

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
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    Hello Phil

    Kristin and Bunni make some important points. Thank you gals. :cheese: I may expand on a couple:

    Wiping sweat causes the body to produce more sweat. As you wipe the sweat away it is taking away that particular cooling mechanism (there are 3). The body then produces more sweat. You lose loads more water and electrolytes and potentially set up a very dangerous situation. You may already know that. It’s possible you thought of taking the towel in because someone had said you need it for sweat or for grip. It really doesn’t matter. Wiping your hands or knee before that posture is OK to do.

    Some really inflexible people really DO need to use a towel. But it seems that you could definitely get by without one!

    You will be quite surprised (not sure when!) that your hands simply will NOT slip anymore. You’ll be in Standing Bow or holding that knee to your shoulder and realise that you had a steady hold/pull/grip and there was no slippage, EVEN IF you were dripping with sweat and you didn’t wipe off the excess. I PROMISE that happens.

    If you are healthy regular person (who has no illnesses or physical conditions requiring modification including injury) and you’re slipping in a pose either feet or hands, or if you feel you need a prop, then I can guarantee there is a technique issue or approach that you can learn (from this forum, my email newsletters or even my products) that will get you over that problem.

    So … about that instruction to ‘not use your towel’. Here’s what I want to say: Any instructor who blurts out a command like that, particularly to a beginner should be going about that a much better way.

    It was your first class for goodness sake. You are not a child and you need the instructor to guide you not tell you off (or to give you the perception you’re being told off) when you’re doing something ‘wrong’. You’re only doing what made sense.

    There! I may get lambasted for that. But hey, if you were in my class you wouldn’t use a towel. Firstly if I saw a handtowel in the room in the hands of the beginner, I would find a moment in the class (either before or after the time they used it) to say some things that point out:

    “When you first start, you may think you need to wipe sweat ….” and then I may give a reason as above.
    Or I could say to the whole group something like: “Remember when you first came and your hands were slipping with the sweat? Isn’t it amazing that after a while that no longer happens, your hands are really strong now”

    There are literally limitless ways to encapsulate something beneficial for the entire group into instruction that doesn’t single anyone out (especially a first-timer). I have only given 2 ideas.

    Equally, I could have either said out loud: “Next set, see what it’s like to hold your leg without the towel”. You would know I was talking to you even if I didn’t mention your name. I am giving you a really effective command that keys you into your body to be present with a feeling.

    If you didn’t hear me, then I can put that down to it being your first class. There’s a LOT to focus on and you cannot hear everything the first time. Hey, you’ll be hearing things as if they were being said the first time in your hundredth class. 😉

    Or I could have waited for people to be in the pose or in savasana and come up to you personally and said, “Hey Phil, I forgot to tell you, you don’t need towels for these poses.” That way there’s no embarrassment either.

    If I, for some reason can’t manage to do ANY of those things in class (and yes, there’s almost ALWAYS time to be personal AND give a great class with more than enough detail) then there’s always the time after that class, or if I don’t see you, the next time I see you with that towel.

    What’s the rush. I want you to come back. I want you to feel supported.

    Instructors need to give people room for a learning curve without calling out negative commands such has “put down that towel” or “don’t do xxx” (unless it’s going to be risky for the student and if they don’t follow that command they will hurt themselves).

    There you go! While your post was about slippage, for me it was more about how to be in a class and learn yoga or anything in a dignified and respectful way.

    Hope that all our answers have shed some light on the subject. Let us know how you go.

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

    kfi2000
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    Gabrielle: Hey, you’ll be hearing things as if they were being said the first time in your hundredth class. wink

    That is SO true….three and a half years into this, I still hear things for the first time. Even if I heard the words before, sometimes the meaning finally clicks. And that’s why “the same class over and over” is never the same class.

    – Kristin

    LightbyGrace
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    This is why I will probably never take an official Bikram class. I personally don’t do well with the ‘military’ style of teaching. Please don’t hear me say I do not like Bikram or respect him for his expertise, I quite enjoy the CD I have of his Beginner Class. Overall and he teaches well and has a good sense of humor, but scripted teaching hasn’t done well for me and barking instructions is uncalled for. We’re learning and Yoga is supposed to be about letting go and listening to our bodies. If I am worried about being called out or corrected abruptly I don’t believe I will find letting go to be possible and I may even push myself beyond what is safe for my body.

    kfi2000
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    I certainly appreciate your feelings on this, but I wanted to be clear that at least in my studio, I’ve never had a teacher be anything but warm and supportive. They do make corrections periodically, but it feels helpful rather than military-style. I’ve certainly never heard any barking. 🙂

    I have no doubt that there are teachers in the world who take a more rigid style, but fortunately I have not encountered it where I practice.

    Hey, even in Bikram’s CD, he calls someone out….”Sweetheart! Sweetheart! Do you know where your ankle is?”, but then he is also funny, encouraging, and a bit of a show off.

    LightbyGrace
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    This is good to know. 🙂

    By ‘barking’ I was referring to the way the teacher shouted at the student using the towel – not the general instructions. Sorry if that was confusing.

    And Bikram does make me laugh on his CD…Wouldn’t want to be in his class though…LOL!

    LoveYogaLoveLife
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    Hey Pookie,

    Sorry I am a little bit late to the party but yes, Bikram Yoga teachers can be quite strict. Having practised in different studios though, I found that some studios have a different culture than the other. If it’s possible, you may want to talk to the teachers about it (so they understand your confusion and will help guide you more gently), or try a different studio?

    Also, came across this article that outlines the benefits and politics behind Bikram Yoga, thought you may enjoy checking it out.

    Peace,

    Shan

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