Building muscle tone & resting

Building muscle tone & resting2011-08-02T17:05:48+00:00
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  • annadenise77
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    Hey there!

    So I know daily practice is encouraged and ever since I first tried bikram yoga over two months ago, I’ve been hooked and have been attending classes pretty much every day (with a few exceptions).

    I’m one of those people who’s very flexible, but not very strong. I’ve had lower back issues related to this in the past and I really feel like bikram yoga is helping me build up muscle tone. I know it is, because, well, ever since I started I’ve been hurting all over my body. Every single muscle in my body hurts. I try to go every day, as some people said would help me overcome muscle soreness, but I guess I haven’t reached that point yet?

    So, I was speaking to my boyfriend about this and he does a lot of weight lifting. He says that in order to build up muscle strength, weightlifters are encouraged to take one or two days off in between their training. He suggested the same might be beneficial for me.

    Now, I don’t know if that’s actually true, but the few times where I’d had to miss a class – I did much better in class the next day. I’m worried (perhaps this is silly) that the muscle soreness will never go away as there’s always more to discover about a pose and to push farther and deeper into it.

    Is my boyfriend right? Should I take breaks? What do you think?
    Thank you for your answer and have a great day!

    Anna

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
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    Hi Anna

    Welcome to the forum :coolsmile:

    It has actually become a hot yoga myth that you must go every day. Your boyfriend is right. Your muscles need rest. Your body needs to recover. Some people need one day off per week. Others need one day off every 2 and others every 3.

    The other thing that could be going on is that you may need help with your pose technique.

    So may I suggest you take 2 days off. Enjoy the fact that your body is regenerating. It also helps you to rid yourself of the guilt feelings that happen if you don’t go every day. I know, I have been there. Force yourself to have a break and be OK with that!

    Then try 4 or 5 days out of 6 or 6 days out of 7. Listen to your body. You really should NOT feel that sustained muscles soreness. It’s telling you something important.

    Let’s figure out what that is. If your soreness persists, then please do a little homework. Let me know where and when the soreness happens and what relieves it. Perhaps you will find that it hurts in certain poses (for example). We could find out that your soreness could be due to your nourishment. Let’s see

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

    annadenise77
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    Hi Gabrielle,

    Thanks so very much for your reply and help!!! I did as you said and took a few days off (feeling pretty guilty, yes) and have been allowing myself some more in-between days. I must say, it really helped. My body did recover during those days off, although the next time I went I again was pretty sore the next day.

    I’ve also been trying to figure what’s hurting me. I think partly, it’s just building muscle strength that I lacked in my arms, legs, shoulders. However, I also think I’ve got some issues with my lower back. My lower and middle back hurt like crazy during the first backbend (half moon pose), although my teacher’s do say I am doing the bend right. I wake up the next day with incredible stiffness in my back. I now also feel it when I’m in the wind-removing pose, when I have both of my legs up, and I wiggle around a bit I can feel sweet pain in the muscles in my back. My teacher here has been telling me to go get a massage, so I’ll try that, but I now wonder if the soreness in my back is also part of an alignment problem?

    I realize it’s hard for you to shed light on this situation just by reading my vague descriptions 🙂 but thanks so much for your advice already. More listening to my body, less pushing. 🙂

    Have a wonderful day!
    Namaste!
    Anna

    helen.moore148
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    While weight lifting, it’s often that many try to exceed their capacity and so the saying came of no pain no gain. But then if they do not take rest then the muscles won’t get enough time to heal and build up. Our body strives to survive in any condition, that’s why our body adapts to any exercise form done continuously. Thus we have circuit training or different asana in different classes.

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
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    Hi Anna

    Now that it has been a week are you ready to give an update?

    Is the rest helping? And what pains are persisting and when? We may get down to some pose specifics soon

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

    Springtime
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    I know the dialogue says that one should bend backwards in half-moon until it hurts, but I don’t think that’s necessarily a good thing. If it hurts, I ease up.

    annadenise77
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    Hi Gabrielle, everyone,

    Thank you for your responses and sorry for my late reply. I was on holiday for a week, during which I did some sun salutations in the hotel room, but no bikram. Returning to class was pretty brutal (it felt like the first time again, even though I was only gone for little over a week), but I’ve noticed that taking one or two days off does help. Usually the 1st day after class, I’ll be really sore, but the next day it’s pretty much over (or def. not as bad). It’s never happened that I took a class and did NOT wake up with sore muscles. Is that just me or is that the same for everyone?

    Thank you so much and have a beautiful day!
    Namaste!
    Anna Denise

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
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    Hi Anna Denise

    Well, I don’t think it’s normal to take a class and ALWAYS feel sore afterward. I can understand it if you’re coming to a new type of exercise or if you’re new to exercise that your muscles would probably feel sore for a few classes (max). But for them to be sore every class? There is something underlying this and it should be uncovered.

    Have you any other ideas of poses that may be the culprit? The other thing to look at is your nutrition and electrolyte levels.

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

    annadenise77
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    Hey Gabrielle,

    There’s a couple of things I’ve noticed during class

    – There seems to be an imbalance in my hips. My hip on the left side is much less flexible than the one of the right. In wind removing pose I can get my right knee to touch my shoulder, but my left knee isn’t even close (it feels like there’s something ‘stuck’ in the hip joint). I feel it also in triangle pose and very much in half moon (I can stretch down a lot on the right side, not at all on the left).

    – I’m naturally very flexible, also in the knees (fixed firm is a chilling posture for me), and it’s difficult for me not to sink too far into some of the poses (again, really struggling with triangle). My knee will not ‘lock’ in the traditional sense (I’m slightly double jointed in my arms and legs) and will keep shifting around, but am working hard to lock it in the bikram way.

    – I seem to still lack some of the strength to protect my joints properly. Engaging my triceps and the muscles in my thights is still very tiring. Also, my back still hurts in the back bends and I’m working on not falling too far backwards, but on keeping myself ‘up’ by engaging my leg and hip muscles.

    Could it be that I am working on fixing some alignment / core strength issues and a lack of strength and that this is why my muscles are always so sore?

    I eat pretty healthily I’d say- lots of veggies and fruits, although in the past I’ve had to take protein supplements because of a deficiency. I haven’t had my levels checked out recently, but this could be something to think about.

    Hmmm… I’m not sure if any of these things have anything to do with me always being sore, but these are some things I’ve noticed in class.
    Thanks again Gabrielle and I apologize if any of these things I described are too vague for you to conclude anything about my situation. I’m saving up for a private class with one of our teachers here, cause there’s never any time to ask these things during or after class (or I’ll forget with being so tired and all).

    Thank you so much for this forum and for all your hard work in giving everyone advice. I really, really appreciate it!
    Anna Denise

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
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    Hello again Anna Denise

    There do appear to be some issues regarding strength. I would bet that most of it is technique related. You’re right I do need more information. I would guess that with the right approach you would work out SOME of the hip irregularity.

    Most people have a difference between sides of the body. So what you’re explaining regarding your hips is not unusual. Perhaps the enormity of the difference is more than it could be. Let’s see where this all takes us by nutting out more details.

    I also won’t rule out at this stage, the need for some professional involvement in the form of a physiotherapist or osteopath.

    I am also concerned about your backbending description. So, next classes please focus on LIFTING the chest and the heart rather than going back. It does appear that you could be sinking into your back. A change of focus is often all it takes.

    In the meantime, will you explain more about what you do precisely to lock your knee?

    I would like to send you a private message to go with this… look out for it.

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

    annadenise77
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    Hey Gabrielle.

    So, I wanted to give you a little update on the situation. Actually, most of the crazy muscle pains have gone away. I still have it sometimes when I do two or three days in a row, but I’m trying to listen to my body more and take one or two days off when I feel too strained. This helps a lot and I feel like I am getting stronger. Seems going from no exercise to a LOT of bikram all of a sudden was just a big shock to the system?

    As for the backbending and the difference in the hips – that didn’t really change yet.
    In the backbends, I’ve been trying to focus more on how I set up the backbends and really tighten up my legs, hips and belly before lifting the chest and then moving back, but I feel like I need to be very careful, still. It seems there’s one vertebra (is that what it’s called?) in my back that is giving me trouble. It’s always the exact same spot on the right side of my spine. The muscles around it cramp too much the day after I’ve sunk too deep into the back bend. I don’t think it’s an actual injury (yet), but I think perhaps I should go see my gp to have it checked out? Or could it simply be from doing the pose wrong?

    As for locking the knee, I try to lock it by pushing the knee back as far as possible and then pulling up my knee cap by engaging the… quadriceps? (sorry, I don’t know all the English words for the muscles). I mean the big muscles on top of your upper leg. This works and makes the leg cramp quite a bit, so I think I’m doing it correctly now? It just never really ‘locks’ as I’ve heard other people describe it. I can still move my knee in this position, I just try not to.

    Thanks again for all your help and advice. I really appreciate it and am very grateful for the existence of this forum!
    Love, Anna Denise

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
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    Hi Anna Denise

    Your muscles in your back seem to be in some kind of spasm. Do you ever get massage? This can help. Especially if you go to yoga and make sure your alignment is very considered and precise. The spasms in your muscles if unresolved mean that it will continue to be tight there. As a result your body will be unable to move without the dysfunction. So perhaps try to resolve that with massage of some kind (even rest can help) and then go to class and do go as deep as you normally would in the poses. Just work on great alignment.

    Locking the knee: I am concerned about you ‘pushing back the knee as far as possible’. The mechanism to lock is more about lifting the kneecap with the quadriceps as you mentioned. Can you explain to me what you mean by the knee still moving? Do you mean the kneecap (the patella)? Or do you mean that you can bend the knee?

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

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