Getting desperate after near-psychedelic experience due to heat: Any links for "scientific" evidence?

Getting desperate after near-psychedelic experience due to heat: Any links for "scientific" evidence?2012-11-20T01:19:17+00:00

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The Hot Yoga Doctor – Free Bikram and Hot Yoga Resources Hot Yoga Doctor Forum General Hot Yoga Discussion The Heat Getting desperate after near-psychedelic experience due to heat: Any links for "scientific" evidence?

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  • romymuz
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    Hi everyone,

    I’m wondering if anyone has found some good write ups online about heat <-> humidity, so I’ve got something solid to take to one of my teachers.

    A bit of background: I’ve done Bikram yoga for about 2.5 years now, about 2-3 times a week, and loving it. I especially love the heat; it was one of the main things that attracted me to it! BUT – my studio has one instructor who overdoes it with the heat to the point that a lot of regulars have to lie down and report nausea etc. I’m one of them, and only in her classes. I love her teaching style (not a dialogue addict, adds lots of excellent extra info) and everything else about her, but am starting to dread her classes because I end up not being able to participate properly and worry about long term effects on my health. In her last class it got so bad that in addition to my ‘normal’ bouts of nausea, dizziness, and extreme weakness/ exhaustion, my eyesight and hearing went completely bonkers. Everything suddenly went very crisp but with no depth, and the volume of her voice was turned down as if I was underwater. This lasted for a few minutes and, frankly, worried me a little.

    My studio has no windows, but 4 small vents in the ceiling (2 in, 2 out, fan-assisted), so air circulation is not the best. Most teachers use the vents/fans 3 or 4 times during class; she normally doesn’t or if so, only for a couple of seconds. With 30-45 people in the room, humidity builds up fast. Other teachers seem to understand this and keep the temperature down a bit as a trade off, but she keeps it at 42 degrees (we’ve asked), never mind the humidity. Oh, and the sensor sits on the pedestal at the teacher’s feet, so probably not the most accurate reading.

    I’ve read in other threads here that you recommend keeping the temp lower and using the humidity for the rest. This make sense to me, since I assume the higher the humidity, the less sweat will evaporate, so the hotter you get. Is that right? Is there anywhere that explains this in scientific terms, maybe even with some formula like 80% humidity = + 3 degrees? I think that would really help our cause. The teacher just uses the old “everybody comes in with the body & mind they have that day”, saying it’s not about the temperature, but about our mindset. And many of our fellow yogis do to make it through class, so maybe she is right. It just seems too much of a coincidence that it’s always her classes that are such a struggle…

    Any input appreciated.

    Thanks!
    🙂

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
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    Hi Romy

    The coincidences seem to be too strong in this case. And you are really experiencing something very risky. Although others may not appear to have the same reaction it is at least very significant that you see others struggling (some lying down and not participating etc).

    Is the same thing still occurring?

    Here are some calculators for something called Heat Index, the algorithm of how heat and humidity together have a potentiating effect.

    http://www.eurometeo.com/english/read/doc_heat
    http://www.nws.noaa.gov/os/heat/index.shtml

    I am sure if you do some research on heat index, heat exhaustion and heat stroke you will find the indications of your scientifically verifiable negative (and what I think is dangerous) experience.

    Have you approached the studio owner yet with your concerns? Perhaps with evidence on your side you will have the right tools to make your point.

    Let me know how you go (and how you’re going now given it’s been a little while since you first posted)

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

    romymuz
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    Hi Gabrielle,

    thanks so much for the links to heat index charts! That’s exactly what I was looking for, without knowing what to call it. I will print these out and take them in to show the studio owner.

    Haven’t had any trouble lately because it’s summer here and so I’ve been doing more home practise with your excellent CDs. When I did go to the studio I always seemed to avoid said instructor, and the others are ok. Most of them use the fan to get some sweat evaporating, which is great!

    Anyway, thanks heaps, this is going to help!

    Cheers,
    Romy

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
    Forum Owner
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    Super!

    You’re welcome Romy

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

    mzsocialworker1
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    It can be intimidating,(especially if you don’t want to get someone “in trouble”) but I think approaching the studio owner about these kinds of concerns is important.

    I had different concerns about a new teacher once and actually didn’t approach the owner because I didn’t want her to get in trouble.

    I think other regulars said something though and things have improved greatly.

    And she still teaches at the studio, and remains one of my faves ;).

    alsingingteacher
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    Dear Gabrielle,

    I have been doing Bikram Hot Yoga for nearly seven months. The first six months were amazing. It completely transformed me physically, mentally and spiritually, and I couldn’t wait to get to class. However, where I once had one ‘bad’ class (dizziness, weakness, nausea) in five or six, that ratio has now reversed. For the last month I have been experiencing all these symptoms plus mild vertigo in most of my classes. I come away regularly feeling defeated and dreading the next class.

    Can you tell me why this might have happened so suddenly and with such ferocity? as far as I can tell, the temperature/humidity is about the same. I have wondered if I need to see a doctor!?

    Thanks in advance,

    Mary Beth

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
    Forum Owner
    Post count: 3048

    Hi all

    This post has been answered in a different thread in response to the very same (the one and only!) Mary Beth. :cheese: You can find it here.

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

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