Hot Yoga v Bikram Yoga

Hot Yoga v Bikram Yoga2009-06-29T03:17:24+00:00
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  • bonmar
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    Does anyone know the actual difference between these? I’ve been to one Hot Yoga class, I didn’t see any difference between the two. As I recall, the dialogue was identical to Bikram.

    fraseram
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    as far as I know the ‘hot yoga’ studios are uncertified by Bikram and there for cannot carry his name. Some hot studios do diff types of classes in the heat as well as the bikram sequence.

    outward1
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    Hi Bonnie,
    You have brought up a good question. One that is asked often, but not always answered clearly. I trained with Bikram back in 2000 and always practiced in Bikram studios before opening my own. We opened as a Bikram Studio and shifted a few years ago to being a Hot Yoga Studio. There were a number of reasons for the shift for us.

    A while ago, Bikram was tightening the rein on “Bikram” studios. This was during the time of threatened lawsuits etc. You can research the web for more info. There were no franchises or agreements to sign at that time. He became more and more focused on “strict dialogue”, to the point it was rumored that he was sending around “secret shoppers” to relay back to him whether the teacher stuck with the dialogue. With all due respect to “strict dialogue” lovers out there I joked with my students that they should take me out back and shoot me if I was required to never veer from dialogue. We do follow a dialogue, but it allows for flexibility in the classroom with regards to a dynamic learning process that goes on in the room. I’ve been teaching for 8 years now and would love to do it for ages and and ages. Having the flexibility in the dialogue will keep it fresh for me for years to come.

    Another reason is that due to economic reasons we offered other styles of classes at the studio and different class lengths. This is a big NO NO to Bikram. Bikram only wants the 90 minute class, no silent classes, no hour long classes, no 75 minute classes offered at a Bikram Yoga Studio. I do agree with him that it is best to offer one style of yoga and be an expert in that style, we no longer offer other styles and it has been best for our studio and our students. I also agree with his assertion that the 90 minute class is best, hands down. But what if you can’t make a 90 minute class? I think an Hour long class is better than no yoga at all. We offer a Beginning Series, with all of the regular Bikram postures. We have added hip openers and an option for people with current back injuries during the Standing Forehead to Knee. So we have 30 postures in all. We offer different class lengths and have a silent class to music.

    Another reason is that the focus of our practice has shifted. Over the years I became less “militant” in my thinking. I am no longer interested in push, push, push…farther, farther, farther. I did all of that for a long while. My body is older now, it has different needs. The practice is such a comfort to me now. I don’t go in to the studio just killing myself. I work hard and with great discipline. And mainly I wanted to have “truth in advertising”. People come to expect a more “aggressive” style from a Bikram studio and I found that some of our customers visiting from other towns wanted the boot camp experience, to be yelled at and be somewhat antagonized. And we simply don’t offer that, I don’t need to be antagonized nor do I have the need to antagonize anyone. For us, it became a philosophical shift from Bikram to Hot Yoga.

    Finally, a large part of the reason for the shift is out of respect for Bikram and the practitioners. If we are not offering the same style, the same 90 minute classes, the same dialogue you would expect from a class at Headquarters then we should change our name from Bikram Yoga Anytown, Earth to Hot Yoga Anytown, Earth :).

    So those are some of the reasons we shifted from Bikram to Hot Yoga. I hope this helps. I look forward to hearing other’s experiences as well.
    Staying tuned.
    Warmly,
    Outward1

    bonmar
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    Thanks you very much for educating me on the differences!

    I guess it’s pointless for me to keep requesting, then, a silent class at my Bikram studio!

    Interesting stuff. Where is your studio located?

    Robert Scanlon (Webmaster)
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    People come to expect a more “aggressive” style from a Bikram studio and I found that some of our customers visiting from other towns wanted the boot camp experience, to be yelled at and be somewhat antagonized. And we simply don’t offer that, I don’t need to be antagonized nor do I have the need to antagonize anyone.

    Just as we were scratching our heads wondering how to answer this diplomatically, you come along with a far more eloquent answer than I could have … THANK YOU Outward1 for taking the time and stating what we believe too – that there can be a much better way.

    (I just partially quoted you for the sake of brevity – I loved the whole post!!)

    *with appreciation*

    Robert

    outward1
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    Hi Bonnie,
    I have a studio in Avon, CO named Hot Yoga Vail Valley. Yeah, I’m not sure you’ll get your wish with the silent class, but you never know. Bikram gets very upset when the standards and rules he sets forth are not followed. And rightfully so, who can blame him, it is a business afterall.
    warmly,
    Outward1

    And to Robert…I’m so glad I was able to come across as diplomatic. I can’t believe I waded so easily into what could have been a wasps nest of contention. 🙂

    Thank you for all you do with the forum and creating an avenue for discussion.

    bravenewyoga
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    thumbs up

    tamadrums
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    The studio I am with has hot yoga and bikram class, hot yoga, is a milder form in hat the room is heated to 35 degree celsius and last 60 minutes, whereas bikram is 40 degree and 90 minutes. Bikram, has it own standard set of the 26 poses where hot yoga they have different pose such as sun salutation sequence. I started doing hot yoga first then I move to Bikram, and never go back to hot yoga. Not sure why maybe I like the challenge, and the strict discipline like martial arts class. In the hot yoga class, we can drink water any time we want and wipe of our sweat whereas in Bikram water break is very much in controll like only after eagle pose then that is the first water break, the rest will only comes when you finished 2 set of the pose then we can drink, also we cannot leave the room after 90 minutes, even if you cannot take the heat you can sit down or lie down but not leave the room.

    Another difference is that in Bikram the teacher does not demonstrate the pose whereas in the hot yoga the teacher do the pose with the students unless he notice some student is not getting it, he will then move to that student to correct his/her form.

    That is my experience of the 2 different type of yoga.

    Last but not least, I think the teacher for Bikram is certified by Bikram himself that is what I know.

    bonmar
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    I see some interesting stuff in the works with Bikram asking all Bikram studios to become franchises and pay him a small percentage of profits, which monies I am told will go towards funding a task force bringing lawsuits against studios using his methods in a way not approved by Bikram.

    In a global world it seems a bit like the Pope trying to enforce strict rules on all the Catholic churches around the world, what they say, how they think.

    Robert Scanlon (Webmaster)
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    Hi Bonnie – that is one of the reasons that I think many studios prefer to be “hot yoga” and disassociate themselves rather than be dictated to.

    As to the monies going towards lawsuits … maybe towards more Rolls Royces? 😉

    It will be interesting from a commercial point of view to see what plays out from this as it is not the first time that it’s been tried over a number of years.

    Namaste,

    Robert

    byoga
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    Bikram Yoga is a series of 26 poses and 2 breathing exercises, suitable for all ages and levels of ability. It is done in a heated room to warm your muscles, prevent injury, allow a deeper workout and cleanse the body by flushing toxins.

    “Never too late, never too old, never too bad, and never too sick to do this yoga and start from scratch again”.

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    Robert Scanlon (Webmaster)
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    byoga if you continue to spam comment this forum I will have to delete your account and ban further visits, as well as complain to the studio you are “promoting”.

    Please restrict your posts to questions or responses to existing members.

    Springtime
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    Interesting discussion. It means that hot yoga can really be anything as long as there is heat, which is much like other yoga styles with no set series. As an outsider, meaning I haven’t been certified, the “politics” behind all of this is fascinating. My current studio does use the bikram banner but his style is very meditative, not at all drill sargeanty, and he does have silent classes. First time I went to a different studio I was majorly surprised by the differences. But have found that I can maintain the meditative practice, which is important to me.

    I think I’m a very lucky gal.

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