this pose really bothers my left hip when pose is over

this pose really bothers my left hip when pose is over2011-03-22T16:54:25+00:00

The Hot Yoga Doctor – Free Bikram and Hot Yoga Resources Hot Yoga Doctor Forum The Hot Yoga Poses Suptavajrasana this pose really bothers my left hip when pose is over

The Hot Yoga Doctor – Free Bikram and Hot Yoga Resources Hot Yoga Doctor Forum The Hot Yoga Poses Suptavajrasana this pose really bothers my left hip when pose is over

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  • staceyg
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    Hi there!

    I love your site and all the info you offer! You are a real gem to the yoga community and I hope you continue doing your thing for a long time!

    I have been practising for a bit more than 1.5 years, and I go reg’ly, 3-4 x week and have done a couple of 30-day challenges. Before I started hot yoga, I was having a real problem with my left hip, in the hip socket itself, a really deep ache, all combined with left-side sciatica. In my first 6 weeks of yoga this problem seemed to get worse and worse, (I would limp out of class) and eventually I sought massage and osteopathy to help alleviate it.

    I know yoga did not cause the problem and IS helping it. However I began to suspect Fixed-Firm was really aggravating the problem, even though I feel fine when I’m in the pose itself. The problem lies in the following sit up, with the really deep ache in the left hip socket returning. This ache will continue after class for a couple of days.

    I decided to go back to basics with Fix-Firm, and for a couple of months just stayed in the first part, really working on getting my butt down to the ground, which I can do fairly easily. And my left hip pain completely disappeared. Two weeks ago one of my regular teachers encouraged me to continue through the pose into the 2nd and even the 3rd parts of the pose, which I did with no pain at the time and with relative ease. (I’ve never found this pose to be a challenging one for me) However, the left hip pain post-pose is returning. (the sciatica is not reappearing tho, that seems fine.)

    I know I have some kind of rotation in one (or both) of my hip bones. My right leg appears shorter than my left, and I am a bit “knocked-kneed”. (the knock-kneed-ness has improved with hot yoga, altho still there!) I also have a bit of a scoliosis.

    I’m hoping you can help me with this left hip pain, because none of the teachers at my studio (as wonderful as they are all, I go to a great studio) has been able to give me a suggestion that has helped. They all just keep encouraging me to do fixed-firm and work through the pain. (which would be helpful if the pain was only in the pose (which it isn’t) and not in real life (which it is)!)

    A couple more observations which I hope will help you help me:

    In standing bow, when standing on the right leg, I can do the pose pretty well, with my left foot right up over the center of my head, my left shoulder behind my right, and my head straight. However when standing on the left leg, my right hip rises, my shoulders and chest form more of a “Z” shape than straight line, and my head tilts, I think to the left. Whenever I try to correct any of these, I immediately fall out, even with just the slightest shift to my head or hip.

    In Standing Head to Knee (my most challenging pose by far!) I have way more balance and strength standing on the right leg, and can almost kick my left leg out. When standing on the left leg, I can sometimes only balance for a split second, and can’t kick out on the right at all.

    In Balancing Stick, I can do a pretty good job standing on the right leg with my hips even and parallel to the floor. When standing on my left leg, my right hip is cocked right up and again I fall when I try to lower it.

    In Half-Locust, when lifting both legs, my legs drift slightly to the left (this is improving muchly) and I haven’t ever been able to keep my left hand palm flat on the mat once my legs lift, it rolls out to the left. My right hand stays put nicely. (I can lift both legs together upto about 45 degrees now, at first couldnt get my feet off the floor!)

    I’m sorry for the length of this posting, but from reading others’ posts, it seems to me that you always ask for more info, so hoping I am helping you by giving you all pertinent info right away! Any suggestions you can offer will be much appreciated!

    Thanks Gabrielle!
    Stacey

    staceyg
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    Hi again!

    I got the Master Class set and am loving all the info in it, however still have my question above. Can you plz shed any insights?

    Thanks,
    Stacey

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
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    Hi Stacey

    WOOPSIE!!!!

    What the? And such a greatly specifically detailed post too! Yikes.

    Quick question to get us on track (finally ;)): Can you tell me if your left leg is more knock kneed than the right? Or is it even? A few descriptive words please?

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

    staceyg
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    Thanks for replying!

    My left leg is slightly longer than my right, altho I think this is related to ilial rotation…but I’m not sure which ilia has rotated; whether it’s left posterior or right anterior. (that’s something I haven’t been able to figure out.) The leg length discrepancy is minor and doesn’t cause either leg to look more knock-kneed than the other.

    Thanks Gabrielle!
    Stacey

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
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    Hi Stacey

    Stage 2! 😉 Are you seeing a physio therapist / osteo or chiro? It seems as though you could benefit from some hip work to try and affect the relative rotation. (I have had this). One hip is almost certainly rotating anteriorly with respect to the other.

    If you have a scoliosis then it is possible that one condition affects / exacerbates the other.

    When you go back into Supta are your knees together?

    ‘See’ you soon

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

    staceyg
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    Hi again.

    I am not currently seeing any therapists, was hoping yoga would work this out, which I think is happening.

    There have been some changes in my hips since I wrote the original question a few months back, and currently my left hip feels pretty good, altho I am still just staying in part one of fixed-firm…funnily enough, now my butt doesn’t touch the ground in part-one. Originally I could get my knees together and go back, but now I am sitting with my knees apart. (another reason I think my hips are shifting is that my inner knees are pretty sore, and my knees feel weak…I have re-gressed in my progress in toe stand for instance, in that right now I can’t support myself for even a second once I’m down…I was never great in toe-stand, but used to be able to hold the pose for a couple of seconds, but not now, so I’m just doing a 2nd set of tree.)

    I’m a massage therapist, so have a really good knowledge of how the body works and how the various parts fit together and what SHOULD happen (in a perfect world!) One teacher accused me of over-thinking all of this, and said “just do it” (whatever I can do) and not get too analytical about it all. And while I recognize this as good advice, my training and curiosity often get the better of me as I work on re-aligning my body. And all that feedback from the mirror just makes me even more curious! lol (it used to frustrate me, but i’m past all that now.)

    Thanks Gabrielle, I really appreciate all you do for us hot yogi(ni)s! Keep up the great work!

    Stacey

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
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    Hi Stacey

    Let me clarify: When your knees are together in Supta they hurt and when they are apart they don’t?

    It’s interesting that the doctrine ‘the yoga will fix it’ is rearing its head again. Is it possible that your instructors are saying this because they simply don’t know what’s going on?

    Because most people’s training (I don’t mean all teachers here) is lacking there is a standard reply or stop gap approach: When in doubt tell the student that they should stick with the process and that it’s their stuff and that the yoga will fix it. With all due respect, this approach doesn’t wash with me!!!!

    It seems that you have some issues with your knees or at least have possibly developed issues. Going back in Supta is not working for you.

    I would until further notice (and that means evidence of EASE in your knees) sit in a classic kneeling pose with knees hips and heels together in Supta. Sounds like a cop out but what we want here is some resolution.

    Anyway, get back to me but I just wanted to start with something that takes care of your knees. I have something I want you to do too which I will send by PM…

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

    staceyg
    Participant
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    Hi again.

    I was in a smaller class yest with an experienced teacher, who noticed I was struggling with standing head-to-knee when standing on my left leg. After noticing this, he gave me lots of personal attention for the rest of class, including coming over and shifting my hips in separate leg head-to-knee, bringing the hip of my front leg back and the hip of my back leg forward. When he did this, the pose was MUCH harder for me and I felt it much more in my abs. He suggested I really work on this pose to work on the alignment of my hips.

    I look forward to whatever you are going to send me via personal message!

    Stacey

    staceyg
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    Hi Gabrielle. Thanks for the PM, however I’ve been trying all day to reply to it, but neither the link in the email notice I rec’d, nor the link on this site itself, seem to be working. I keep getting an error message, something about the url being too long? I’ll try again tomorrow, but thought you would want to know if there’s a prob with your site. stacey

    Gabrielle (The Hot Yoga Doctor)
    Forum Owner
    Post count: 3048

    Hi Stacey

    Oh dear! You can try to write to me at help @ … you can work out the rest!

    Namaste
    Gabrielle 🙂

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