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  • Trefor
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    Thank you for the great responses.

    I couldn’t agree more with my approach and have spent time finding a way to communicate it. I ended up going that day of my last post. The thermostat at the end of class was 110. The average temperature was 112 and 70% humidity on my Sensor. My arms and legs were cramping after class it took about 2 hours after class to function.

    I could probably spend weeks talking with you about this series and how it’s evolved over the years. I wish Bikram would say something on this topic. Your forum has mentioned it many times. Tony Sanchez has brought this subject up. While Bikram has lost a lot of credibility in my eyes, many teachers and people still listen to him. There have been no deaths as of yet but 1 case where a female was in a coma for several weeks. I feel it’s a matter of time before someone dies because of the hotter is better mentality and new technologies to heat rooms faster and hotter.

    I found another studio down the road from my house 30 minutes away.  Coincidentally several people were practicing there that I knew from my area. After class 1 asked did I move to the area. I told her I was here because the other studios were getting too hot. Apparently this was also why she was there and many others are doing the same thing. Her sentiments were the same that it’s dangerous and unethical what they are doing.

    I love your forum and it’s always been a go to source whenever I have questions.

    Hopefully this subject gets brought to light and studios with the hotter is better mentality rethink why they feel hotter is better before something tragic happens. I find that 93-100° and 40-70% humidity to be optimal for my practice. It’s enough to get the benefits from the heat and with my own bodies inner heat not to high that I suffer heat related sickness.

    Here is a links to the body temperatures.

    https://www.snewsnet.com/news/csu-bikram-study

     

    https://www.yogajournal.com/lifestyle/bikram-yoga-causes-103-body-temps-study-finds-stay-safe

     

     

    Trefor
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    Thank you for the response,

     

    In my area there are 3 studios where you can practice the 26 and 2 series.   1 I will probably never go again as the studio can get dangerously hot. Last time was 115° and at the end only 2 people were still practicing. I talked with the teacher and she said it’s traditionally practice at 115° I was in shock at the response. I don’t know if she thought that for the last thousand years they lit fires in huts in Kolkata… Or that back in the seventies Bikram raised the temperature that high. None of the teachers are trained by Bikram or by somebody that should be doing teacher training. I follow the dialogue and as a result we have disagreements on postures and timing. They have fans but don’t use them as it “cools the room down” the other 2 are very modern studios as a result they have opportunities to control the room temperature.  They have fans and one has a fresh air exchange. I have had a regular practice for 8 years. I have also sought out great teachers. I have found the 26 and 2 series to be a giant game of telephone and now only listen to one teacher on technigue. He is a 5th generation Ghosh teacher and has worked with Bikram.  His best advice was always what does the dialogue say. As a result I know the dialogue and know when teachers aren’t following it and or don’t understand it. I don’t want to be dogmatic about it but I’ve been injured by following bad instruction.  I seek out good teachers and now there is only 2 times a week where I can go to a practice knowing the teacher is skilled enough.  I find it funny that many teachers care more about getting the room to 105°   something Bikram never said and an arbitrary number then following the dialogue. I have a very strong practice. I travel a lot and have been to many studios that use the heat responsibly. I try to hide in a back corner because my practice can be distracting to others and I hate watching people hurt themselves to have the appearance of getting deeper into an Asana.  I have also found many teachers need to somehow correct my postures and when I don’t listen to them or don’t accept there assist or when I start to ignore them and do a self practice because the timing and dialogue are wrong, that many have attacked me with heat. I have also found many great teachers that know the timing and the dialogue and use it to push me “body down, kick up”.

    I found your website a few years ago when I started to sweat more in everything I did and wanted to find answers. The best answer I have found is like Pavlov’s dogs but the other being heat exhaustion and needing to rest a week after and not doing it. I realize the answer is to find a better studio and teacher but it’s not a perfect world.  I feel like giving it up because the one bad teacher or the inexperienced teacher that let’s the heat get out of control is hurting me. I’m not talking about the one time but the culmination of years of this. I’m an man and have a lot of muscle and I could reference studies done on hot yoga classes where men’s core temperature gets dangerously high. Mainly as a result of more muscle mass and the heat generated by it.

    In the end I guess this is just a rant…

    My dilemma today do I go do yoga by a teacher that is trained by someone who should not be doing teacher trainings and will create dangerously high heat index or do I just not practice.

    I wouldn’t mind going to a class that was 105° 40% humidity in a well ventilated room. The fans blowing air helping my bodies cooling system to work.

     

     

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