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    Hi Dia,
    So glad to hear you are doing so well. I was wondering about you recently and hoping that my post had helped. I am THRILLED to hear you are doing so well and were able to take such good care of your knees.

    I recently have had to focus more on strength in my own yoga practice as well. It is really a good lesson to learn that yoga isn’t just about flexibility, it’s one I have to be contiually reminded of. Let me know if I can help with your hip at all. I remember about 3 years into my practice that my hips became very sore for about 6 months…I was having trouble finding a comfortable position to sleep in and they ached a good part of the day. For me, I had to back off, and I think it was that my hips were opening and that they weren’t strong enough in the new layer of flexibility. Once I gained that strength the ache and soreness went away. I hope that is what you are going through as well :).

    Thanks for the update. I am so glad that I could help and more importantly that you feel better.
    Have a great day.
    Warmly,
    Ame

    outward1
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    in reply to: Teacher training #5429

    Hi Rebecca,
    I think it’s really important for you to find out as much as you can about Bikram yoga, the training, and the financial/time commitments as you can. Everyone’s experience will be different. I went to Bikram training back in 2000. It was a very challenging experience and it showed me discipline and commitment. My teacher at home taught me how to think on my feet, how to make corrections and work with injuries. I learned through experience and years of teaching (10,000 hours of it) how to specialize in working with injuries and refine my techniques. I am still learning.

    And as Jane said perfectly…But more to my point, you will be learning different things from different places—some of the ‘places’ may be your own experience DOING the practice. I think another good place is at the Hot Yoga Doctor.

    You will invest a large sum of money in Bikram training, that is a fact. If I may, I recommend that you find out all you can about the Bikram franchising business. There is a huge amount of contention about the money grab “franchising” going on right now. Just do a simple Google search. It may affect your decision re. opening a “Bikram Yoga College of India”. There is a real change of focus/direction in the Bikram world and I am saddened to see that this may fracture the community irreparably. There has always been, in my opinion, a lack of support for teachers and studios from Headquarters and this just seems to reinforce that opinion.

    Once you start reading what is going on, I encourage you to stay focused on the positive. You have said you want to…have my own healing school with Bikram Yoga. In this world of ours, you are allowed to teach any sequence of poses that you’d like. If you call yourself Bikram Yoga and want to be affiliated with Bikram Yoga then you need to be a part of the Bikram franchise. His name and his marketing materials are copyrighted. You can also complete another teacher training and still open that healing school of yours.

    If I can share a story with you, when I started Bikram yoga 12ish years ago I LOVED it. It changed my life. I had never done anything like it. The studio started announcing that Bikram was coming to town. Bikram is coming to town, what’s a Bikram? A man, I had no idea. I didn’t even know there was a man behind it, other than my teacher Jim from New Jersey. Then I started to think about all of the wonderful things that had happened once I started this yoga. I wanted to meet the man who saved my life, who changed MY life. I was so excited. This was big. Then it wasn’t. I went to the seminar and I was greatly disappointed. It wasn’t one of Bikram’s finer seminars. I went home very dejected, Bikram, the man who “saved” me was just a man with faults and gifts just like the rest of us.

    I didn’t know how I could go back into class again. Then it occurred to me it was a real blessing that Bikram, the man, didn’t turn out to be someone I really connected with. It was ME who saved and changed my life, by pushing open the door to that stinky studio day after day after day. Why I tell you this is because it will be YOU, who goes in to work each day inspiring people, taking people through a series of poses, be it Bikram’s sequence or another sequence and those people will take it upon themselves to change and affect their own lives. It is a truly wonderful “job”.

    I hope this helps some. I think Jane responded to your post more eloquently than I could have. (Well Done:))
    Warmly,
    Ame

    outward1
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    Good Morning, UKYogi.

    I read your post and thought I would reply. Good for you for starting, working on and maintaining your practice for 2 months. I am glad you went to the Dr. to rule out anything serious with your condition.
    I remember once way back in my practice that I had a few classes where my “heart ran away from me”, it got really fast and it was very scary. I was under a lot of stress at the time and wasn’t in the happiest place in my life. I went to the Dr. and they did an EKG and laughed at me, my results were so good…they pointed to a number on my chart and said this number is so good *because* of your yoga practice. I pressed and asked them what was wrong when my heart raced. They said, “Well, don’t work so hard”. It was a simple answer that changed my whole practice. I am not sure it will work for you, but it did for me. I backed off some of the poses during the class that I was struggling WAY to hard in and never had the problem resurface.

    I had a question re.the comment
    “I noticed I was having significant problems catching my breath during the floor series”.
    Many people have this issue. Can I ask if it is during the Spine Strengthening Series or elsewhere in the Floor Series?

    As far as the yoga bringing emotional issues to the surface, some of the forum threads below will help you see other people dealing with emotions during class or postures. You can also just type emotions in the search tab and see some of the results.
    camel pose – strongly emotional
    Angry in Rabbit

    Yoga allows us to peel back the layers of stress and protective armor we have built up over the years. That process can make us feel a little or a lot vulnerable. When we move through the world with more vulnerability, areas we once balked at feel more tender. When we feel anxious our breath becomes less deep and we can spiral ourselves into a panic attack. The yoga class teaches us to use our breath in class to work through difficult postures and sensations. It is perfect training for “the outside world” when difficult emotions or sensations arise. Return to the breath, that deep in for 6 counts out for 6 counts breath, through the nose deep into the chest and belly. Feel the centering, meditative, calming whatever you want to call it, effect.
    I hope this helps.

    Warmly,
    Ame

    outward1
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    Congratulations on getting started…that is often the hardest part. I am so glad that you feel so good. You’ll now be able to figure out when and how to go and the driving force that keeps you coming back is how good you feel and feel about yourself when you go.

    Enjoy the Bliss and keep us posted.
    Ame

    outward1
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    Hi Dia,
    From an arm chair assessment I agree that it seems like there is some inflammation in the knees. Sometimes when we go into class we caught up with deeper and farther and don’t rely upon strength enough in the pose. For example, if we bend the knees in awkward and load the knee joints (weight bear in the joints instead of feeling the work in the muscles) we can create a tendonitis. Also, if the hips are really tight and don’t want to go somewhere like in triangle they will make the knees do some things they aren’t ready for.

    Here are some potential culprits, I recommend the following until your knees ease up a bit…
    Awkward
    1st part-
    Sitting down too deep. I am not a fan of thighs parallel to the floor and butt in line with the knees from the side view. I find that students tend to load the hip and knee joint instead of working the butt and quad burn. I keep my students fairly high up in this pose, nowhere near thighs parallel, where their quads and butt feel the work.

    Putting too much pressure/weight in the front of the ankles, the ball of the foot and knees. Remember that the body weight is in the heels.

    3rd part
    Stay up higher for a while don’t lower down until the bottom is to the heels. Again, maybe lower down a few inches and feel the burn in the quads and butt. You may be lowering down without sufficient enough strength built up in the quads and butt to not load the knee joints.
    And, please, do not respond to the correction to bounce up and down like you’re riding a motorcycle, if they do that sort of thing at your studio.

    Eagle-
    Same attention to the body weight back in the heel and not forward into the front of the ankle or ball of foot. Stick your bottom out and then lower down, body weight into heel about 60%. I’d also back off wrapping the foot right now, it can put pressure on the patella tendon when there is inflammation and weakness in the quads.

    Standing Bow-
    Are you kicking your foot back or up? Kick up. Are you pulling on your ankle as you kick up? Don’t. Let the kick (not from the quad, but kick with the butt muscles) pull your arm back.

    Triangle-
    Again, don’t sit down as deep. I know they will cue you to sit down until the thigh is parallel to the floor. Just for a while stay a bit higher above parallel, it will be hard, your muscles will burn like crazy. This will do two things give your hip some space and not pressure it into anything it’s not ready to do and it will build your muscle strength.

    Tree Pose-
    Don’t force your bent knee down or back. Do not do toe stand for a while.

    Floor Bow-
    Again, make sure you kick UP and not back. I have some students who try to engage their quads to kick up and it aggravates their knees.

    Fixed Firm-
    Please, do not try to sit your bottom down or back deeply into this pose. Bend the knees, set up the alignment and then put your body weight in your hands lower back slowly to keep your bottom up off the floor. If you feel any pain or pressure come higher up or out of the pose completely. If your hips are tight, which I suspect they are (from the pop in triangle) this pose if worked too long or deeply will cause knee problems. With all due respect to previous posts, this posture can be one of the most beneficial postures for the knees and can also be the most damaging to the knees.

    I wanted to give you some tools to work in class. It’s a bit difficult not seeing you practice to see where the work is needed. So, if some of my corrections are over the top, understand, I am just giving you the usual culprits. For most students working with injuries, I tell them to stay above and away from the pain. Since you don’t have pain in a pose, let’s focus on strength for a few weeks and see how that works. Usually developing strength helps us to avoid “loading the joint” and use our muscles to their fullest. Do keep up with the anti-inflammatories, I recommend Traumeel oral or cream or both. And the Epsom Salt soaks are a great idea as well.

    Look forward to hearing if this helps at all.
    Best of Luck,
    Ame

    outward1
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    Hi Feenix,
    (Warning, long post.)
    Here’s my two krona (do they have a saying like that in Scandinavia?). I encourage you to take a week off every 6 months or so. It really gives your body a rest. I notice our students who take time off for vacations and return are very worried about how horrible they are going to feel and how tight they will be in their first class back. I regularly witness that the opposite is true. Aside from the issues that arise from drinking too many Margaritas or too many glasses of wine on vacation, they find many surprises in their practice. Oftentimes, postures will be more “open”, their hamstrings were less tight, their backbends deeper. I joke that it’s really bad for business, they MUST come every day or they will lose it ALL ;).

    I see two factors creating a “better” class at play. One, their body enjoyed the rest and the de-stressing that usually occurs during vacation. Two, they have a limited expectation of their performance during their first class back. Those factors ease the body back in and really help facilitate a more comfortable class.

    I am a pitta dosha (pretty much all the way) and I struggled through my first three years of classes really suffering from the heat. I always had to take a knee and rest during class. I always saw my fuschia colored face staring back at me the mirror screaming for help. I tell you that because the heat was never easy for me and truth be told I’d rather practice in a cool room, but it’s not the same yoga. I digress, to make a point. I noticed no perceptible difference in readjusting to the heat after coming back from a break or vacation. I have, however, learned to assess how I am feeling and am able to throttle back a class when I start to feel overwhelmed. That’s what has worked for me.

    I read so many posts on this forum re. how often to practice, 100 day challenge, 750 day challenges with doubles on Tuesdays, triples on Thursdays. The best advice I can give is…Find out what works best for you. I knew when I started 11-12 years ago that I needed to do this for the long haul. I know this about myself, if I don’t have some sort of commitment, schedule or rhythm I will lose interest and will quit altogether. Many of my cohorts in the studio practiced singles everyday of the week and doubles often. I felt a little less like a “yogi”. A lot of them have stopped practicing yoga altogether. I let myself feel second tier, but I knew I had to prevent burnout so I stayed with my own pace. When I started yoga I set a schedule of 5x a week for two months (to change your body and your life), ended up keeping that schedule for 6 months. It did change my body and my life and I quit my job, traveled overseas and took 6 classes in a year (yes, you read that correctly). After that my first 3 years, 5-6 days a week. I maybe took 3-4 days off a couple of times a year. I would go on vacation and not practice yoga, unless I felt really compelled. I did teacher training for 2 months, practiced 2x a day Sundays off for 8 or 9? weeks. Finished training, practiced once a week. Returned to practicing 5 days a week. When I opened my yoga studio, I was lucky to get in one class a week for myself for the 1st year. Now, I practice 2-3x a week on a good week.

    I have some students who practice 2-3 times a month and have done so for 8 years now. That time line would not work for me. I have students that come to the studio finishing up a 100 day challenge from other studios, saying they are committed to keeping a regular practice and I never see them again. We’re all the same, but also wired a bit differently.

    Again, play with your schedule, find out what works best for you. Nothing is permanent. There is no magic number that you hit and the birds sing and the bells ring that will grant you permanent health and happiness and make all classes easy from there. When you hit Full Camel there is no permanent enlightenment or higher power…just you in a different shape, smiling. It is a wonderful path with just you as your traveling partner, that can be both joyous and annoying.

    Hopefully, I haven’t gone too far off base with my response. My wish is to share my story with you in order to encourage you to find the pattern, the rhythm, the commitment that works for you. I DO want to hear how you work it all out.:)
    Warmly,
    Outward1

    outward1
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    Hi Bonnie,
    I have a studio in Avon, CO named Hot Yoga Vail Valley. Yeah, I’m not sure you’ll get your wish with the silent class, but you never know. Bikram gets very upset when the standards and rules he sets forth are not followed. And rightfully so, who can blame him, it is a business afterall.
    warmly,
    Outward1

    And to Robert…I’m so glad I was able to come across as diplomatic. I can’t believe I waded so easily into what could have been a wasps nest of contention. 🙂

    Thank you for all you do with the forum and creating an avenue for discussion.

    outward1
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    Hi Bonnie,
    You have brought up a good question. One that is asked often, but not always answered clearly. I trained with Bikram back in 2000 and always practiced in Bikram studios before opening my own. We opened as a Bikram Studio and shifted a few years ago to being a Hot Yoga Studio. There were a number of reasons for the shift for us.

    A while ago, Bikram was tightening the rein on “Bikram” studios. This was during the time of threatened lawsuits etc. You can research the web for more info. There were no franchises or agreements to sign at that time. He became more and more focused on “strict dialogue”, to the point it was rumored that he was sending around “secret shoppers” to relay back to him whether the teacher stuck with the dialogue. With all due respect to “strict dialogue” lovers out there I joked with my students that they should take me out back and shoot me if I was required to never veer from dialogue. We do follow a dialogue, but it allows for flexibility in the classroom with regards to a dynamic learning process that goes on in the room. I’ve been teaching for 8 years now and would love to do it for ages and and ages. Having the flexibility in the dialogue will keep it fresh for me for years to come.

    Another reason is that due to economic reasons we offered other styles of classes at the studio and different class lengths. This is a big NO NO to Bikram. Bikram only wants the 90 minute class, no silent classes, no hour long classes, no 75 minute classes offered at a Bikram Yoga Studio. I do agree with him that it is best to offer one style of yoga and be an expert in that style, we no longer offer other styles and it has been best for our studio and our students. I also agree with his assertion that the 90 minute class is best, hands down. But what if you can’t make a 90 minute class? I think an Hour long class is better than no yoga at all. We offer a Beginning Series, with all of the regular Bikram postures. We have added hip openers and an option for people with current back injuries during the Standing Forehead to Knee. So we have 30 postures in all. We offer different class lengths and have a silent class to music.

    Another reason is that the focus of our practice has shifted. Over the years I became less “militant” in my thinking. I am no longer interested in push, push, push…farther, farther, farther. I did all of that for a long while. My body is older now, it has different needs. The practice is such a comfort to me now. I don’t go in to the studio just killing myself. I work hard and with great discipline. And mainly I wanted to have “truth in advertising”. People come to expect a more “aggressive” style from a Bikram studio and I found that some of our customers visiting from other towns wanted the boot camp experience, to be yelled at and be somewhat antagonized. And we simply don’t offer that, I don’t need to be antagonized nor do I have the need to antagonize anyone. For us, it became a philosophical shift from Bikram to Hot Yoga.

    Finally, a large part of the reason for the shift is out of respect for Bikram and the practitioners. If we are not offering the same style, the same 90 minute classes, the same dialogue you would expect from a class at Headquarters then we should change our name from Bikram Yoga Anytown, Earth to Hot Yoga Anytown, Earth :).

    So those are some of the reasons we shifted from Bikram to Hot Yoga. I hope this helps. I look forward to hearing other’s experiences as well.
    Staying tuned.
    Warmly,
    Outward1

    outward1
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    Yep, I got the blue and orange Oms as well.

    outward1
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    I am so happy to hear that this worked for you. It sounds like once you took the pressure off yourself to achieve the goals/corrections you were able to go there with out strain. You did a great job meeting your intention, what a wonderful thing to give yourself on so many levels.
    I look forward to hearing more of your progress.
    Outward1

    outward1
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    Hi Kirstenmd,
    Re: Half Tortoise

    This pose causes a lot of confusion for people, I agree that the dialogue causes some of this.

    When you push Bikram on what is most important…to get your forehead down or to lock the arms?
    He answers with a question, Who do you love more, your son or your daughter?

    What he is saying is that ideally, he wants both. The forehead down and the arms locked out.
    Beause of various body issues (tightness, injuries etc.) and unique conditions we are left with prioritizing details or layering.
    With tight shoulders, latissimus dorsi and neck muscles you may only be able to get the forehead to the floor without the arms locked. I have some students whose foreheads do not touch the floor yet, so you are ahead of the game.:)
    While the forehead is on the floor, I encourage students to work on the shoulder/arm work as best they can. The beginning layers of the posture may be quite comforting, but when the arm/shoulder work is brought in it can be very intense.

    So begin to work the arms while you are in the pose. Begin by nudging the hands in prayer forward towards the mirror to the level you can, if the forehead starts to pop up then stay where you are and breathe. Feel the stretch through the arms and shoulders.
    You will, layer by layer, begin to open the upper body (back, neck and shoulders) and will be able to work the arms into a locked position. And then, after your arms are locked, triceps engaged, you can start on the work through the more advanced corrections through the hands wrists and fingers.

    We need to be patient with the body. Oftentimes as teachers we describe the final expression of the pose to tell you where you are going, it may not happen today, work all the levels as best you can.

    How about that for layering, but not having to choose whether I love my son or daughter best. 😉

    Hope this helps.
    Outward1

    outward1
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    Hi Feenix,
    There seems to be new controversy re. the breathing. I had a student recently return from visiting a studio and they told him to be silent…he’s probably less audible than Gabrielle on the video.

    Take a look at Gabrielle’s free breathing video, I think she sums it up beautifully.
    It is audible, not singing and vibrating or scratchy, but audible. I continue that “feeling” of the Pranayama breath she describes throughout my own practice. It may not be as “loud”, but it still is audible.
    I don’t have a lot of (read: none) experience with Ashtanga breathing, but I will share some classroom experiences.

    I am a teacher and I encourage my students to follow the breath. I may even have a student who is struggling with breath to follow the lead of a student near them and tap into their rhythm. Yes, I want them to eventually follow their own breath, but it helps when you are really lost to follow a cadence of breath. The student they are following is not making their breath really loud, it just sounds like white noise (remember Gabrielle has on a microphone in the video, it probably wouldn’t sound really loud if you were practicing next to her in class).

    I have had students from other studios come and practice with us who seem to be trying to buzz us out of the room with the loudest breath possible, especially in Pranayama. They are adding noise to the process, it is very contrived. Interestingly enough, they also usually have problems making it through class…regular sitting and taking breaks, though we are up at high altitude :). It doesn’t seem that they can really recover from that challenging breath.

    To me, the Pranayama breath is a primer for our class. We step off the street, into the yoga room and tap into our breath. We most likely haven’t had deep diaphragmatic breaths throughout the day and will be needing that throughout our class. We warm up the depth of breath in Pranayama and use that depth throughout class.

    The student was clearly “tweeked” by hearing your breath. You may be adding noise to it that isn’t that useful to you in this practice. See how you can manage the same depth of breath you seem to be getting without the roar? of breath.
    That being said, the student who decided to chastise you was out of line, IMO. We as yoga teachers and students are teaching breath, you can’t teach breath and tell someone to be silent. And yes, we do teach “silent classes” at our studio, where you can hear people breathe.

    It reminds me of one thing I remind my students…
    You know you are way over due for a yoga class when you can’t even stand the sound of someone breathing.

    And finally, if it truly is a silent class then the student who chastised you should indeed remain silent. 😉

    Hope this helps some.
    Looking forward to Gabrielle’s thoughts and hearing your response.

    warmly,
    outward1

    outward1
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    Hi Sonny,
    Congratulations on your pregnancy!
    I have a Hot Yoga studio, have been practicing for 11 years and teaching for 7.
    I think it is important for you to follow what is your “instinct” and most importantly
    what is good for you. Since you have said you are losing touch with your instinct on this I have just a few ideas for you.
    1. Take a digital thermometer into class with you. Take your temp. throughout class, the beginning, the middle, the end, also take it when you feel the hottest. Check with the studio owner before you do this to get their blessing. It will beep to tell you the temp. so you might want to tell the students as well. So they are wondering what the beeping is about. I think everyone will be interested in you taking care of your health the way that you encourage them to do as students. I have had a number of pregnant students over the years and currently have a pregnant student due mid-May. The most their temperature increased in class was 1 or 2 tenths of a degree. That’s not a concerning amount according to ob/gyns I have spoken to. If I might suggest, don’t make a big deal of it to everyone that you are running this experiment just find the info. and use it for yourself and the studio owner to do with what you will. In some studios info. can run like wildfire and turn nasty if there’s the stroppy attitude already present.
    2. Do you have a door, window or cool space you can be near while teaching? Our pregnant students are always given priority by an outside or studio door so that they can get closest to the vent when they need it. They can even sit with their back up against the door and it does wonders for cooling you quickly. I keep an eye on them through class and will vent the door for them periodically. As a studio owner I would be more than happy to talk to any students that have a problem taking care of a pregnant woman or dealing with a cooler class because of it…part of our yoga is letting go of our own demands and expectations (always evenly Hot room, that is x degrees and y level of humidity at all times) and to develop a more compassionate maleable perspective of ourselves and fellow human beings.
    3. One of the biggest issues for our pregnant students have is fighting dehydration. Our studio is also at 7000-8000 feet so the altitude is an issue for everyone. I recommend coconut water. I’ve recommended it on this site before. I have no investment in a coconut water farm, I promise :). It has made ahuge difference for them, it may help you as well.
    So, I don’t know if I’ve helped at all, it’s just gotta be tough having everyone tell a pregnant woman what they should and should not do, I certainly don’t want to be another nosy Nellie. I look forward to hearing more from you and Gabreille, we are so lucky to have such a knowledgable information source.
    Best of luck to you.
    outward1

    outward1
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    in reply to: Breathing #4173

    Hi Scott,
    Aahh, the nose breathing, it is so crazy difficult to do isn’t it. It doesn’t have to be though. I would always bend forward and take open mouth “cheater” breaths when I first started the yoga…I thought the teacher wouldn’t see.
    In my opinion, it is sort of “mis-named” nose breathing. Yes, you are breathing through your nose, but you are pulling it in through your throat. I tell students, when I hear that their breath is “sniffy” sounding to feel the breath travel through the divet between their two collar bones. It should sound deep and throaty.
    When it is sniffy sounding, it’s like you are breathing through two cocktail straws (miserable), when it is throaty you feel like you have all day to breathe in. So how do you practice this? Go into the bathroom, in front of a mirror. Place your finger in the divet between the two collar bones focus on that area, feel it and see if you can get the breath to pull or throttle through that area. I think that is what your teacher is telling you when they say to breathe deeper. If that doesn’t work, think of this, hollow out or drop your tongue down into the lower part of your mouth then pull the breath via the throat, this should help. Here is an additional note, I hear students stop breathing through their nose and instead make this really really gravelly noise at the back of their nasal passage, that isn’t it either, it’s been described as a very oceanic sound. Try it, let me know if it helps.

    And finally, here’s WHY you breathe through your nose…
    Hairs in your nasal passages filter out foreign bodies, better for you to help fight off infection. Asian cultures find mouth breathing “a disgusting, filthy habit”. from Science of Breath, by Yogi Ramacharaka

    Nose breathing is said to vibrate against your vagus nerve (conveys information about the state of the body’s organs to the Central Nervous System) which is mixed with parasympathetic nerve fibers which is in charge of rest, digest, restore functions of the body. Mouth breathing, on the other hand, is done usually in a state of distress, think of a panting dog. It also engages the Sympathetic Nervous System which is in charge of fight, flight or freeze reactions. When the fight or flight response is engaged physical symptoms occur, rapid heart rate, palpitations, increase in blood pressure, pupil dialation, adrenaline is released. All of those things you DO NOT want to be happening during your yoga class.

    Nose breathing helps lower your heart rate faster than mouth breathing.

    Mouth breathing makes us hotter and dehydrates us faster.

    Nose breathing, when it is oceanic sounding, pulls the breath deep into the bottom lobes of the lungs giving you the feeling of a more expansive, relaxing breath.

    Once you get that, I LOVED Gabrielle’s description of the breath in her book, I’ve been using it in my class with great success, it’ll take you even further.

    I have professional endurance athletes who report that when they have an opportunity to change to mouth breathing, say climbing a big hill on a bike they are able to do it with more power and endurance than they had ever had before. That makes it pretty compelling to me :).

    Can’t wait to hear Gabrielle’s response, I’m sure she has even more.

    outward1
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    I think you are right to link this to hormones. It sounds like you are treating yourself right in class, allowing yourself the permission to back off if you need it. One final analysis that I am not certain about is your size (weight) or how much you sweat compared to your intake of water. We have a very petite woman (120lbs.) who sweats like a football player and needs WAY more than 60 ounces a day. She’s even resorted to taking salt tabs (she also has low blood pressure) to retain water. A number of my students were really having trouble with hydration, feeling ill, unable to make it through a class without having to sit for longish periods of class. They started drinking coconut water (Zico, ONE or Vita Coco) during and after class along with their regular water intake and it helped them over the hump. I found that Emergen-C helped me to not crash further and that Coconut water helped me recover. I only wish I had it when I first started. It’s great that you are so willing to take care of yourself, it shows great compassion. Stepping away may only be temporary, but do listen to your inner voice and take good care of yourself. I am staying tuned. 🙂

    outward1
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    I was reading your post and wanted to respond/help. I had a few questions for you.

    How hot is your studio running…are lots of people sitting down because they
    are so exhausted or overheated? Are students and or teachers practicing/encouraging the push, push, push…harder, harder, harder mentality? How is your hydration? Are you taking electrolytes (coconut water is just magic, you can buy it in natural foods stores)?
    Are you performing poses to the advanced level?

    It’s just that some of your symptoms sound similar to heat stroke or dehydration. I’ve had a studio for 7 years and a practice for 10-11 years. When I first began the practice I was under an incredible amount of stress trading securities for an investment firm. The classes I took during the times of intense stress for me were much hotter and more difficult to accomplish. A few years in to my practice I learned to pull back a bit and not to hit every posture to the maximum. Classes became less about the heat and more about listening to my body. I stopped, for a while, kicking out in standing forehead to knee, trying to hit the standing splits in standing bow, doing toe stand, going higher in spine strengthening series (just went to where I could breathe, deeply). It allowed me to take the pressure off for 90 minutes a day. I think of it now and realize that when stress is being released from the body it doesn’t feel like a big hug. :ohh:

    That being said, I have a student who is in her 50s who is really having a hard time in class and getting crankier and crankier with us about the heat…says we must be doing something different (not a thing has changed), that she is perfectly healthy and it’s us. When she practices she is kicking out in standing forehead to knee, kicking up 2 feet plus in half locust (wow), pushing all of her postures to the limit and is just making herself hotter and increasing her suffering. She reports the convulsions, has chills (fever like) and says that she has to sit in the parking lot after class for 45-60 minutes just composing herself to drive home safely. In my opinion, seeing how she is practicing and that she will not back off that she is really doing herself some harm.

    So, I don’t discount that there may be some hormonal issues going on (we women have so much to balance out 🙂 ) I just wanted to throw in some other ideas and thoughts about practice. And on a final note, I find it really common for us Hot Yoga practicioners to easily get dehydrated. Water is not enough, we need to regularly use electrolyte replacement…coconut water or emergen-C to replace lost minerals.
    I hope this helps, I look forward to hearing how things go with you.

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    I have a student that is doing the same modifications as you and is seeing great progress.
    Don’t do anything that hurts. She is actually doing pregnancy mofifications for the spine strengthening series. The only other thing that has made a huge difference is that she is taking Traumeel (oral) by the Heel corporation. (Webmaster, is mentioning a product ok in the forum?) It is the fastest homeopathic I have found…it has arnica and calendula and really speeds healing and helps with pain and inflammation.
    Speedy recovery to you.

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